2025-02-13 OEM Repair Procedures and Build Sheet Data Meeting Minutes

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Date

Feb 13, 2025

ANTITRUST STATEMENT

As participants in this meeting, we need to be mindful of the constraints of antitrust laws. There shall be no discussions of agreements or concerted actions that may restrain competition. This prohibition includes the exchange of information concerning individual prices, rates, coverages, market practices, claims settlement practices, or any other competitive aspect of an individual company’s operation. Each participant is obligated to speak up immediately for the purpose of preventing any discussion falling outside these bounds.

Agenda

  • Welcome/Networking

  • Antitrust

    • This meeting is subject to the terms of our anti-trust statement shown here.  In addition, this meeting may be recorded. 

  • Meeting minute Review

  • New Committee Page Layout

  • New Goals or work for 2025

  • Discussion of New Legislation on OEM procedures and parts

Meeting Minutes

  • Welcome/Networking

    • Welcome back, our last meeting was in October before the Holdiay and Travel Season; Hope you all had a great holiday season.

  • Antitrust Review and accepted

  • Meeting Minutes Review and accepted

  • New Layout, https://cieca.atlassian.net/wiki/x/AQDAU

    • Action Items from Meeting Minutes will be posted here and should go away by the next meeting (This is your homework section)

    • Jira Log is items that we have been requested to look at as a committee or things the committee has agreed to work on as a deliverable for standards.

    • Decision Log is a quick reference to the decisions we made as a committee with a link back to the meeting notes.

  • Discussion of New Legislation

    • Mississippi bill requires insurers pay market amount for OEM procedures and parts | Repairer Driven News

    • Bill requiring OEM repair procedures reintroduced in New York | Repairer Driven New

    • We need to make sure we capture the repair procedures in the estimate.

      • We need to look at capturing at the data we capture and share to make the process more transparent.

        • Can CCC, Mitchell or AutoTech provide data they think would help in this?

      • Look at Flat rate for things like calibrations and diagnostics

        • Need to look at retail time instead of warranty time, but keep in mind it needs to be fair

        • OEMS are working on the allowable times and descriptions around diagnostics, but there are a lot of caveats.

          • Provide a fixed time to check out a repair, diagnostic or calibration and then allow for justifications for additional labor hours.

          • Transparency and adjustments for a older vehicle that system diagnostics may make it totaled vehicle for a minor damage.

          • Coming up with critical Mass time

          • Look at ways to capture different data from dynamic calibrations because 2 people are involved

      • Where is the best place to find the data, Mitchell, CCC, AutoTech or AllData

        • Some information is 2 to 3 years old and you have to go to the OEM Repair Procedures site

      • Need to make sure each calibration has its own labor

        • If we bill for calibration in 1 flat time, then when we have multiple sensors, we are not going to be able to fit all the changes under 1, so we need to make adjustments to show each sensor calibration on its own line.

      • The transparency to the customer would make it easier on the industry. Now everyone generates estimates off different data and a different process, so you take your vehicle to 5 shops, and they can be drastically different in cost. Because one shop may know there is 8 calibrations, and the other is only seeing 1 calibration. The providers run a multiplier off a warranty time, to get labor operation. It shouldn’t matter if you are a DRP shop, OEM shop or local shop, a labor operation is a labor operation.

      • We have Warranty Time, is there a way to develop labor times and the other times and cost that are needed to make an estimate transparent?

        • Can we get rules in place

      • Different areas are Operation Codes, labor times, labor rates

        • was the recalibration done and where we document the procedures

  • Taylor mapping project

    • Taylor was going to work with the committee to help with the mapping of repairs of each manufactures repair information. We need to reach out to him and make sure the meeting time is good for him to attend.

Agenda for Next Meeting

  • Welcome/Networking

  • Antitrust

  • Meeting minute Review

Action items:

@Paulette Reed Contact Taylor Moss with OEConnection to share the mappings with the committee.
@Paulette Reed Look at Calibrations and Line Items to determine how CIECA has these specified for billing (one calibration or do we have each type of calibration)
@OEM Committee, Can everyone get examples of data they would like to see, how they think it should be broken down for Calibration, Diagnositc, OEM Procedures. This will give us a visual and help us prioritize. Provide Test Instances or live examples of estimates that we needed more information for adjustments to help us see if CIECA has the fields needed or if we need more fields or more code list.

Decisions

References:

 

 

Participants

  • @Paulette Reed

  • Gene Lopez

  • Chuck Olsen

  • Dale Ringwald

  • Mark Allen

  • Shaughn Kennedy

  • Dave Butler

  • Don Porter

  • Paul Barry

  • Kim Sorlien

  • Trent Tensley

  • Phil Martinez

  • Michael Giarrizzo

Participants in the meetings are noted for your information.  If you have questions on the committee’s activities, please contact a recent attendee. OEM Repair Procedure and Build Sheet Data Standards Committee Home
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